Settling Indonesia V Australia, once and for all!?

I am so sick of all this Indonesia V Australia bs, im going to line out why such a war would never happen and even if it did, it would be a bloody draw, neither side could invade the other!, Constructive criticism is welcome as well your own opinions. Indonesia is a welcoming Ally of Australia, both nations have... show more I am so sick of all this Indonesia V Australia bs, im going to line out why such a war would never happen and even if it did, it would be a bloody draw, neither side could invade the other!, Constructive criticism is welcome as well your own opinions.

Indonesia is a welcoming Ally of Australia, both nations have mutual diplomatic relations with each other and Indonesia receives a significant amount of Australian Aid ($462 Million (AU dollar). They both cooperate in areas such as counter-terroism, maritime boundaries, Fishery conservation, law enforcement and many other areas. Many Indonesian students Travel to Australia for educational purposes. clearly these nations have no intentions for going to war with each other.

Now, why a war between Indonesia and Australia would be unproductive and pointless.

Lets assume that Indonesia was attacking Australia, because Australia could never, ever invade Indonesia without help and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. The only real reason i can think why Indonesia would even want to Invade Australia is secure valuable natural resources. Now Invading the entire continent of Australia is a very daunting task, you would need an army at least 550,000 to 600,000 strong, a extremely large amount of supplies and transport to get around the country quickly. here is were Indonesia hits trouble, Indonesia has a army some 300,000 strong and a reserve force of 400,000, so theoretically Indonesia easily has enough troops to invade the country, however transporting this amount of troops is far beyond the capabilities of the Indonesian Navy. Indonesia would have to transport hundreds of tons of supplies to keep these troops active, The Australian Population would also hinder movements via strong Resistance.
The Naval/Air War:
For Indonesia to land enough troops on the Australian continent they would need to gain Air superiority and Naval supremacy over the RAN and RAAF (RAN= Royal Australian Navy, and RAAF = Royal Australian Air Force) This is Indonesia's weakness, although the Indonesian navy is 2 times bigger than the RAN it lacks modern vessels and many of its ships are approaching obsoletes compared to the highly sophisticated ships of the RAN. The RAN also has 6 highly capable Diesel electric submarines under its command which outnumber and outclass the current submarines of the Indonesian Navy. Indonesia also lacks large numbers of transport ships which it would need to transport such a large number of troops/supplies from Indonesia to the Australian mainland, and this could happen once the RAN and RAAF had been neutralized, which would be very difficult to achieve. The RAAF is one of the most potent in the SEA region, it has over 124 combat capable aircraft (71 F-18 Hornets, 21 F-111 and 33 BaE Hawks, although the Hawks are training aircraft, they are capable of air-to-air combat.) Indonesia's air force has only roughly only 66 combat capable air-craft in service, 29 of which are BaE trainers whom are outclassed by the F-18 hornets. Australia would be able to gain air superiority and destroy any incoming Indonesian landing force. The RAAF also has numerous modern anti-aircraft and anti-ship weapons and missile batteries. The RAAF and RAN are also both to see upgrades in the near future by 2030 the RAAF and RAN will have the following Equipment added to their arsenal:
RAN upgrades:
3 Hobart Class Air warfare destroyers
12 New Submarines (will replace the 6 collins class)
2 Canberra class amphibious operation ships capable of acting as air-craft carriers.
Various upgrades to the missile systems on the current ANZAC and Adelaide class ships.
RAAF upgrades:
100 F-35 fifth generation stealth-capable multiple fighters
24 F-18 Super hornets
8 Boeing P-8 Poseidon
7 long endurance/large UAVs
6 Boeing project wedge tail aircraft

Economic factors:
Australia has a much stronger economy than Indonesia, If necessary Australia could quickly purchase further aircraft or ships to aid in its defence.

US support:
Australia and Indonesia are both close to the US government however, Indonesia does not have a free trade agreement with the US or a ANZUS style security treaty. The ANZUS treaty is a security alliance between the US, Australia and separately New zealnd to Australia. This treaty is a simple Military alliance, that if anyone attacked Australia, the USA and NZ would be committed to war against the attackers. This alliance is extremely important to Australia's defence, the US pacific fleet could obliterate Indonesia's Navy and Air force in combat and force Indonesia quickly into submission.

As you can see, neither side can win, Indonesia cannot invade Australia and Australia cannot invade Indonesia, War is unproductive and pointless, these two nations can work far better together than against each other.
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