Do atheists have a standard point of view as to how the universe and life came about?

It seems that there are just as many different "kinds" of atheists as there are denominations of nearly every religion. One believes this, another doesn't believe that.

In a summed-up simple version, what are your individual takes on:

The "Big Bang Theory". The general synopsis, from what I gather, is that people generally accept that there was apparently some huge mass (of what?) that was just "there". When someone says that to me, I feel to ask, "So it was ever-present?" Yet people deny that any deity or being could be ever-present, so that puzzles me why they think some mass of elements was always just "there". If among the laws of Science, we know that matter is neither created nor destroyed...then matter is ever-existing? Why is that easy to believe and yet so many people give a hard time to others of various religions that believe in a creator? If anything, that sounds more realistic than the above method. So this large mass blew apart somehow and formed the universe. If this mass was "always there" and ever-existing...how was anything introduced to make it unstable and blow apart, if this is all that was there to begin with? To me, that's the equivalent of saying that a house always existed...and one day it just blew apart and made a lot of mansions....yet no explosives were placed in it and there was nothing to cause it. Now, I know that many people would say, "Just like the stars blow apart..." or "It became unstable..." Now wait a minute...presumable, this is ALL that there was before there was a universe. So there was no stars, black holes, unstable supernovas, etc. if my understand of most people's thought process on the Big Bang Theory is correct. What caused the explosion.

Scientifically, why do we have a planet earth (pitched at an exceptional angle for the sun) that supports life in the middle of a bunch of planets that have no life and conditions that are so harsh that we wouldn't last a second there? Yet wouldn't all of these planets in our local solar system, being in the same vicinity as one another and presumably coming from the same makeup material...be similar?

Then we get to the life itself. Something blew apart, formed the universe, etc. Now we have water, hydrogen, oxygen, etc. We can mix that together in a laboratory...is that going to form living life when mixed together, even in the proper proportions? Is that suggesting that something came from nothing? Or if life was "already existing" as bacteria, etc. (ever-living bacteria, too??) on the so-called mass before the big bang...where did that life originate?

I am looking for a strictly scientific basis and support for this. I personally believe in a creator because I look at the people who quote things like the above and think, "What? You think I'm nuts and you're telling me about ever-present materials, spontaneous events out of nowhere on an "ever-existing" mass, etc.?"

I don't try to force my beliefs onto others. So, I would prefer that we leave the religious aspect out of it and all of the childish comments knitpicking out of it (I'm sure that will show up at some point, no matter what). Scientifically speaking, what proof of these things are there? Do you have specific, documented sources?

Update:

Christian Skeptic - "No. Atheism only has to do with God's or gods' nonexistence. What you want to know about is astronomy and biology."

So with that being the case...atheism tries to deviate from discussing origins at all and using the "I don't know" approach? If God doesn't exist, then wouldn't atheists not be searching for "the truth" to find out who and what does exist and how we came about?

Update 2:

Iwalkeverywhere - Not quite. A search of Abiogenesis just leads me to about 15 different theories. Everything goes back to a "theory".

Update 3:

Iwalkeverywhere - Not quite. A search of Abiogenesis just leads me to about 15 different theories. Everything goes back to a "theory".

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  • 8 years ago
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    Atheists are just people who don't believe in any gods. We don't have to know all the answers to reject "a magical invisible being did it." And, atheism is not an ideology.

    Most atheist accept what the latest science tells us, which is quite a lot.

    For thousands of years, people have said that their god was behind what they didn't understand -- life, lightning, stars, earthquakes, the origin of life, the world or the universe, etc. Positing a god to supposedly answer a question solves nothing. It just adds an unwarranted level of complexity and stops you from asking more questions.

    It used to be that science couldn't answer the question about the origin the universe or of the Big Bang, but that didn't mean we should make up an answer (such as a god) and say that it was the cause. Within the last few decades science has discovered some good answers. Since you don't seem interested in doing your homework, here are some answers.

    There are many well-respected physicists, such as Stephen Hawking, Lawrence Krauss, Sean M. Carroll, Victor Stenger, Michio Kaku, Alan Guth, Alex Vilenkin, Robert A.J. Matthews, and Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek, who have created scientific models where the Big Bang and thus the entire universe could arise from nothing but a quantum vacuum fluctuation -- via natural processes.

    In relativity, gravity is negative energy, and matter and photons are positive energy. Because negative and positive energy seem to be equal in absolute total value, our observable universe appears balanced to the sum of zero. Our universe could thus have come into existence without violating conservation of mass and energy — with the matter of the universe condensing out of the positive energy as the universe cooled, and gravity created from the negative energy. When energy condenses into matter, equal parts of matter and antimatter are created — which annihilate each other to form energy. However there is a slight imbalance to the process, which results in matter dominating over antimatter.

    I know that this doesn't make sense in our Newtonian experience, but it does in the realm of quantum mechanics and relativity. As Nobel laureate physicist Richard Feynman wrote, "The theory of quantum electrodynamics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as she is — absurd."

    For more, watch the video at the 1st link - "A Universe From Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss, read an interview with him (at the 2nd link), or get his book (at the 3rd link).

    The study of how life started is called abiogenesis, and it is making significant progress in showing how life started with normal chemical processes. For more, see the video: "The Origin of Life - Abiogenesis" by Dr. Jack Szostak, winner of the 2009 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, at the 4th link.

    With likely trillions of planets in the universe, and billions of years, all it took was one for intelligent life to develop. The beings on that planet would see that they were fit (because of evolution) for living in the conditions of that planet. This is why there are no Martians wondering why they don't exist.

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  • 4 years ago

    Well, I don't belittle anyone for asking science questions. However, a question like "Atheists: How did life get started in the first place. Evolutionists don't know! HAHA, Fail!!!! I'll go with my bible, thank you" isn't really, to be honest, a request for scientific information, or even a request for information at all. Most of the "science questions" are similarly intended as "gotchas" so people can feel like they sure showed those atheist heathen evolutionist Big Bangers a thing or two. However, even when that's clearly the intent, I make an effort to try to say what is known scientifically, although this falls outside my expertise. I provide a link to some scholarly source and do my best to capture the main points in lay language.

  • 8 years ago

    Do christians? Do muslims? Does any set group of people have a single unified point of veiw on anything?

    EDIT: we say 'i don't know' when we don't know something because it is a better option then making up a magical reason for it. Was saying 'god' ate the sun a better option than saying 'i don't know' for a solar eclipse?

    EDIT*2: Go read this to understand the word 'theory' http://www.fsteiger.com/theory.html

    'As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.

    Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. A clear distinction needs to be made between facts (things which can be observed and/or measured) and theories (explanations which correlate and interpret the facts.

    A fact is something that is supported by unmistakeable evidence. For example, the Grand Canyon cuts through layers of different kinds of rock, such as the Coconino sandstone, Hermit shale, and Redwall limestone. These rock layers often contain fossils that are found only in certain layers. Those are the facts. '

  • ?
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    8 years ago

    No, we don't. Most western atheists however do accept scientific explanations for the origins of universe. We don't have all the answers. Is this using the 'i don't know' approach? Its important to say we don't know when we don't know. Scientists are searching for the truth constantly and when they find any evidence of anything which adds to our knowledge of the universe it is published and verified or challenged or expanded or adapted by other scientists and we gradually increase the sum of our understanding this way.

    It is not that scientists fail to look for evidence of creation - they look into how our world formed and the results point to natural processes - if anything ever comes up which suggests a creator, the scientist who discovers it will be incredibly famous and all other scientists will be all over it. Don't worry, you will hear all about it! If the world was created science will prove this at some point. At the moment all evidence points to it not having been.

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    I am an atheist. I do not believe in the existence of any gods. That is the essence of atheism. Nothing else is attached to atheism. I do not know how the universe began. Nor do I know how life began on earth. Neither of those two things have anything to do with atheism.

    Now, am I interested in how we came about? Of course! I have some thoughts on the subject that involve the Big Bang Theory. I also have some ideas on how life originated. But are those ideas proved? No! You look around you and to every unanswered question you say to yourself, "God did it." I look around me and to every unanswered question I say to myself, "I wonder what the answer is."

  • Green
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Atheism is just lack of belief in God. It does not uphold any particular beliefs, or knowledge.. despite how much people may want it to be more than just a label of a person that does not believe in gods.

    I'm an atheist, but hardly a scientist and to be honest I have an incredibly short attention span when it comes to science so I can't really give you the answer you are looking for. I'm more interested in enjoying life, than sitting around reading books that I will shortly forget.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    jigsaw from 'saw' movie is the antichrist. jerusalem is whore of babylon. nwo tattoo from the 'in time' movie is the mark of the beast.

    a note on aliens. aliens are demons. Christian God created these aliens. first, they were nice looking, now they're not so nice looking. so, demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships. warning: 80ftdinosaurs will come out from underground through sinkholes and lakes, and start eating people up; antichrist is a white gay man with red eyes; mark of the antichrist is a green electronic nwo tattoo with sixes that is given by lasers when one stretches their hand to receive a new small gray world passport; ufos=demons=aliens=ascended masters=ghosts=channeled entities=dead relatives during seances=spirit guides=pagan gods=greys etc.; atlantis (where aliens make humans their puppets) is underneath mariana trench; china will attack russia; don't worship the antichrist; don't take "the chip, world passport, and nwo tattoo"; don't go into a ufo ship under any circumstances

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    "Do atheists have a standard point of view as to how the universe and life came about?"

    No. Atheism only has to do with God's or gods' nonexistence. What you want to know about is astronomy and biology.

  • 8 years ago

    Atheism = I don't believe in gods. The rest of your drivel can be summed up as ignorance of the subject matter and fallacy: argument from personal incredulity/ignorance.

  • !?!
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    No, standardizing atheists is like pushing a rope...it ain't gonna happen. By the by, if you answer your own questions, its a form of mental masturbation and there's no real reason to post.

    Source(s): Pax.
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