As a soon-to-be Jewish convert, what Hebrew names are acceptable? (Please read description)?
I really like the names Neta, Yael, Noy, Neriah, Pnina/Penina, Esther "Esti," and Sapir. However, I have a friend who is Orthodox and she says that Neta, Noy, Neriah and Sapir are not "Jewish." To be honest, this is just confusing me because they're all considered Hebrew, but she claims they're "modern Israeli" and that they wouldn't work as names to convert to. With that being said, as much as I respect her, I wanted to hear a second opinion as to whether or not this is actually true. (Especially because I'm converting to Judaism but not the branch of Orthodox, so I don't know if this is simply unacceptable in that specific realm only). Thanks so much for the help!
- Kevin7Lv 712 months ago
i think consult Jewish rabbis on that matter. i like Yael.
- BMCRLv 712 months ago
In order for a conversion to Judaism to be valid, it has to be done according to Halacha (Jewish law).
There is nothing in the laws of Gairus (conversion) that mandate the picking of a "proper" Hebrew name.
With that said, it is true that Neta, Noy, Neriah and Sapir are "modern Israeli" and are not typical names picked by converts.
I personally know of two converts who have the Hebrew name of Chana.
- TNOLv 712 months ago
Well, if you're converting, then you must have a Rabbi that you're studying under. I'd ask for their opinion, or at least the opinion of someone knowledgeable at your synagogue. The Rabbi at least would know what is Kosher.
It is true that names like Neta, Noy, and Sapir are all names much more common in modern Israeli culture. However, I'm not sure if that's technically disqualifying. They all are Hebrew, after all. I think that perhaps her dislike may not be on the grounds of religious law, but her own personal dislike. I say this because I think these names were just nouns prior to being used as proper names. For example, Sapir is just a sapphire (similar since our word's etymology comes from Semitic roots) and she may dislike that just as she'd dislike someone here in America (or wherever you are) naming their kid Apple. Essentially, a lot of "Israeli" names are just nouns made first names. Of course, a LOT of the historic Hebrew names doubled as nouns as well, like Caleb (dog), Hadassah (myrtle tree) and even Pnina (pearl). So, from this standpoint, I really don't see why your names should be unacceptable, even if they're more utilized by modern secular Israelis.
Another thing to point out is that there are cases where Hebrew names are, well, not Hebrew. Esther comes from the Persian word for star, unsurprising since Farsi is an Indo-European language and related to the Greek word for star, aster (as from that, astrology and asteroid). I believe even Alexander can count as a Hebrew name, if I'm remembering things correctly, since Alexander the Great earned huge admiration from Jews. I point this out because I also take issue with one other thing she says: That these names are "not Jewish". While there is criteria for choosing a Hebrew name, Jews can have any name they want. I'm a Jew, and my Hebrew name and my real name not normally of Hebraic roots aren't the same, after all. I'm aware that she may not be talking about that and her wording (or your recall of it) may have been poorly stated, but it is worth noting that many Orthodox Jews don't have Hebrew first names anyway.
If this friend means a lot to you, and the name isn't something you focus on too heavily, then do know that Yael, Esther and Pnina should all work well. With Esther and Yael at least, I know that they're Biblical characters so there should be 0 objection. You could search a bit more and see if there are names that work for both of you that are close or have similar meanings, for example switching out Sapir for Tzippora (it's a Biblical Hebrew name meaning bird) or Noy with Ziva, since their meanings seem close enough. Or you can do what I would in your shoes: Ignore her, it's YOUR name. Thank her if she's pointing out a violation with the rules, something I don't think you're in, if there is one; but, if once again all your choices are Kosher, then it's not her place to shoot them down.
- SkylineLv 612 months ago
I can only speak for Orthodox Jewish practice, as although I'm non-religious, Orthodox Judaism is the backbone of all modern Judaism, especially in the State of Israel, with all other types being sects that practice half measures in their observance of Torah law. Orthodox Judaism won't recognize your conversion and you won't be able to, say, have a formally recognized Jewish wedding in Israel, but nonetheless I will assume that your branch at least maintains Orthodox level standards with names...
The common practice is to choose a religious name that directly applies to a biblical character, such as Sarah, Rivka, Leah, Yael, Tamar, Esther etc.
The modern Hebrew Israeli names that you included are not within this practice. I don't think there is technically anything wrong with not adopting a purely religious biblical name, but it simply isn't the done thing.
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- Karen LLv 712 months ago
Are you not studying the religion under the guidance of someone already in that faith? Most people do, before converting. That person would be a better one to ask than people on a forum like this.