Ending birthright citizenship to illegal immigrants that's the loophole that needs to be closed. There can't be an argument at all about it?
- artLv 66 months ago
Great Britain closed that loophole many years ago, any children born in Britain are considered the same natinallty as the parents, so the babies get deported along with the parents
- FoofaLv 76 months ago
That isn't a "loophole" but rather an intentionally obtuse reinterpretation of what the 14th Amendment was meant to accomplish. This is hardly the only thing about US law that has some issues. Vis-a-vis immigration there are gaping problems ranging from how little one has to earn to sponsor a relative, to sibling sponsorship, to the H1B program being used as a race to the bottom for tech workers. Those are just a few of the things that contribute to this cluster eff the US has created for itself.
- StephenWeinsteinLv 76 months ago
There is no birthright citizenship to illegal immigrants. Immigrants are those who are born elsewhere and come after they are born. Birthright citizenship is given to those born in the country (including the children of illegal immigrants, but not the immigrants themselves).
- COMPTONLv 76 months ago
they need to stop that because the illegals are abusing it here in california. that's a reason why it's overpopulated here
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- 6 months ago
ABSOLUTELY....... in fact.... ALL immigration should be stopped as well.....
- A.J.Lv 76 months ago
There sure can be an argument about it.
First of all, it is something Trump wants. Secondly, it is based on US Supreme Court decisions based on the structure of the US Constitution. Trump knows an Executive Order would be just another annoying piece of toilet paper to wind through the courts and highly likely be voided.
There are only two paths. One is a US Constitutional Amendment. They are few and far between. The other path is a concerted effort by both Houses of Congress and signed into law by the President crafted in such a way that the US Supreme Court can bend and clarify a support in a reversal of their historical interpretation.
It can be part of a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform that documents all current residents in some way cleaning up the whole issue of the 10 million or so people here now. If Trump and McConnell want to actually fix a problem in a fair way, they need to cooperate with the House.
Otherwise, just as Moscow Mitch, the Grim Reaper of the Senate lives to be a pain in the rump that our President has an extra "T" in the phrase, the House will do the job they are elected to do and that is keep as much balance and sanity as possible. How much will the sham dictators give to get what they want?
The cash employment evading FICA and Income Taxes also needs a fix, and that happens by documenting the people here illegally now. I happen to like Buttigieg's proposal, a new level below "Green Card" of permanent resident.
- ibu guruLv 76 months ago
If you want to keep families together, then jus sanguinis is the only way to go. A child takes the citizenship of its parents, and only the citizenship of its parents!, wherever born. Of course, even in US (or other countries allowing jus solis), a child still has birthright citizenship in its parents' country. Alas, too many people fail to think about that.
The 14th Amendment was solely intended for people LEGALLY present in the US at that time. Yes, it absolutely is long past time to stop the erroneous interpretation of the 14h Amendment, and end allowing citizenship to offspring of those not legally present. Keep families together! Mandate illegal alien & other foreign parents get their child a passport from their country of citizenship, & mandate parents take their kid back to their own country. People temporarily present (e.g. students, foreign workers on temporary visas) should not be muddying the waters of citizenship, either.
- Donnie PorkoLv 76 months ago
It needs to be changed because too many people are abusing it. You got Chinese flying over the United States just to give birth on US airspace so their kids would be US citizens. You got central and South Americans sneaking into the US to give birth so that they can stay in the US.
- 6 months ago
Not a fan of the Constitution eh?
- AlexLv 76 months ago
Then technically you have violated the community guidelines because this isn't really a question.