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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 8 months ago

Trumpsters, do you realize that whether Trump withheld money to pressure the Ukraine to interfere in our elections doesn't matter?

the major violation is Trump pressured a foreign government to interfere in our elections, the means in which he did it are not relevant to it being a crime

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  • 8 months ago

    What do you mean: "interfere in our elections"?

    Isn't that just spin applied by Hillary and co?

    Trump was talking to the Australian PM yesterday. Was that in order for him to interfere in our elections as well? I bet it was really. Shouldn't we have the transcripts? Impeach 45!

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  • 8 months ago

    Since they have not released the transcripts of the alleged conversation, we don't know what he said or did not say or why he said it.

    Do you realize that your assessment is based solely on TDS?

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      8 months agoReport

      assumed what? speculated what? we have video of Trump and Giuliani saying it, and an interview given by Ukrainian officials to US media the day after this blew up stating that Trump had been pressuring them to investigate Biden, so what am I speculating?

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  • 8 months ago

    Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

    In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

    “I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

    “Well, son of a *****, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

    Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.

    But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

    If the FBI was not a partisan tool of the Democrat Party they would be pushing the Ukraine to conduct this investigation itself.

    Now people like you are not upset about Biden's corruption but the fact that the President wants it investigated.

    liberals are bizarre

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    • Lv 6
      8 months agoReport

      3) many different NATO countries had been trying to get the Ukraine to fire this prosecutors
      4) Several different American administrations had been trying to get th Ukraine to fire this prosecutor,
      5) you have been thoroughly manipulated

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  • Anonymous
    8 months ago

    Yes..but Trump has done this kind of thing so many times, and so blatantly, that it has become normalized. He's done this type of thing hundreds of times now. If Obama did this just once, conservatives hair would be on fire and treason charges issued. But When Donnie does it, they say "Oh, thats just Trump being Trump, how cute! He was probably just joking, anyway!"

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      8 months agoReport

      and then they go around touting how they are the "Real Mericans", it's so pathetic

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  • 8 months ago

    If the allegations are true. Trump used tax payer money to get a foreign country to get oppositional research against a political opponent. That's wrong period!

    If the allegations against Biden are true that doesn't mean Trump is innocent. It just means both of them are wrong.

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    • Lv 6
      8 months agoReport

      Ukrainian officials have already come out and stated that the Biden's have not broken any laws

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  • Anonymous
    8 months ago

    True, Nobody wants Biden.

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  • Anonymous
    8 months ago

    Do you realize they don't care?

    I mean if it was a Democrat there would be all kinds of conspiracy theories, moping, and victimhood by conservatives. But it's not, so they're going to ignore and even encourage it.

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