If atheists are scolded for quoting the Bible "out of context", why isn't Jesus also scolded?
Psalm 22 says "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?" But one of the people who made up the different versions of the Crucifixion has Him quoting only the first bit, and NOBODY claims He was "roaring". (Although nails through the wrists probably would hurt, a LOT, and screaming would be an appropriate reaction!)
- ArcherLv 71 month ago
Theists will often "cherry pick" their presentations yet when someone who has actually read the bible responds with an informed response out of the bible they call it "out of context".
- WOOWHOLv 71 month ago
If ( its not a IF its a BEHAVIOR that does occur ) WHEN Atheist are Scolded for quoting out of context . that is considered as justified Behaviors by Some people . Why is a Jesus quote NOT Scolded ?
the inquiry is about a EQUALITY of Standard being applied
and pointing out HYPOCRISY i did some investigation
QUOTING out of Context aka CONTEXTOMY / quote mixing is a informal FALLACY and a type of FALSE attribution , in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter ( the KEY ) in such a way to DISTORT the INTENDED meaning
an example where a Atheist might present a Passage on the the subject of SLAVERY but it does NOT DISTORT the INTENDED meaning
the QUOTE EXODUS 21 :20-21 Anyone who beats "THEIR " male or female "SLAVE" with a rod , must be punished "IF" the "SLAVE" dies as direct result , but they are NOT to be punished if the SLAVE recovers after a day or two since the SLAVE is "THEIR " PROPERTY
that quote does not DISTORT the intended meaning of "PROPERTY " the 613 LAWS of the Bible God aka Mitzvot has specifics defining describing what is a SERVANTS SLAVES and EMPLOYEE
only one is defined as PROPERTY the Hebrew word for slave is "EBED" the difference is a BONDMAN a Hebrew SERVANT in the torah has two CLASSES # 1 He whom the COURT has sold or bonded to another WITHOUT his CONSENT ( no jail facilities rather work off the crime ) for a DEBT # 2 he who WILLINGLY sold ( bonded ) himself for a DEBT ,( this applies to Hebrews ) in today's practices its Contract law and serving a Fixed SENTENCE for a CRIME ( theft ) a court may sell a man for THEFT ONLY a man shall SELL( contract ) ( in debt ) himself for extreme poverty ( a fixed time to pay off a loan )
in contrast a Israelite can BUY a FOREIGN Born ( bondsman ) such person BECOMES a "POSSESSION" .. PROPERTY and are INHERITED by the buyers Children like other PROPERTY aka a SLAVE .. then there is the elements of an EMPLOYEE a FREE person paid on a regular basis for their labor aka CONTRACT
as to NAILS through the WRIST is a PAINFUL experience it does NOT KILL PEOPLE demonstration of this is a percentage of the PHILIPPIANS population engage in such a practice every "GOOD FRIDAY " termed DEVOTEE / PENITENTS called "MAGDARAME " which include carrying wooden crosses crawling on rough pavement SELF FLAGELLATION and NAILED to a Cross
RUBEN ENAJAN age 53 has been Crucified 28 TIMES the Catholic Church discourages the practice .. a CRITICAL thinker would say because it demonstrates Crucifixion that ACT does NOT cause DEATH ( other processes over time might cause death ) in these EVENT the local Board of HEATH require participants have a TETANUS SHOT I had a friend who Stepped on a Board with a long nail in it through his foot and work boot he did not die there is demonstration and documentation of Building Contractors who have Shot themselves with a NAIL gun and not died even shot in the head with a nail gun
- DougLv 71 month ago
Try a better translation. Yours is pretty far out there.Source(s): www.askmeaboutgod.org
- DonaldLv 61 month ago
how unclear is this?
HIS distress was evident.
so would yours be if you found yourself in the same situation.
the enemy (in later verses were as a LION).
snarling...full of venom.
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- Anonymous1 month ago
Do you use God's dictionary vs man's?
The extent of His pain was so excruciating, it was if "roaring" (Psalm 22).
You sound like a today's Christian who has used man's dictionary for baptism that's "immersion in water" vs God's dictionary in which He said "but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost" (Acts 1:5) and didn't say a word about water.
Don't today's Christians know God said
8"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts" (Isaiah 55:8-9)?
What happened to "Lean not to your own understanding" (Proverbs 3:5)?
- 1 month ago
Yeshua was not quoting out of context, he was upholding prophecy that was prophesied about him.
- JenniferLv 61 month ago
You do know that Jesus wasn't born yet when Psalms was written, right?
Even if the account in Psalms is accurate to what was actually said, what's written in the gospels isn't contrary, or even out of context next to this, it's just incomplete. I have no doubt that anyone would have done some "roaring" in that situation, though my version says, "cries of anguish" in Psalms. I really don't see the problem.