The founding fathers thought slavery was the greatest thing since sliced bread. So why do I have to think their electoral college was great?

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    I think what was going on there is that the founders wanted a republic a lot more than they wanted a straight democracy.  Historically plain democracies do not have a very long life span.  (which ancient democracies? you might say, well that's a whole 'nother thesis.)  Everything the founders set up was to slow down impulsive action, the whole system is riddled with checks and balances which are designed to promote careful consideration of every action, and the electoral college is one of those many speedbumps designed to balance the needs of a republic against the vagaries of majority rule.  At the end of the colonial period, the (European Descendant) population was distributed much as it is today; A lot of people hugging the coastline clustering in the cities, and the interior remaining relatively empty.  It was only later that the Europeans started filling up the interior, then after that, moving into the cities.

      It seems that it has to do with each state counting as an entity.  Here a while back I realized that if there was a mineral underneath Montana and Wyoming that the people of California wanted to obtain, and it were put to a straight vote, the mountain time zone would lose.  Los Angeles has twice the voting power of Wyoming and Montana COMBINED.  Not that Californians would be inclined to stripmine Montana&Wyoming, but Los Angeles could totally out-vote them. 

      It also has to do with choosing a president in the same proportions that we use to make our laws.  I feel that the definition of the word state has become watered down over the past 200+ years, and has morphed from something synonymous with "nation", and has become more akin, in the understanding of the general public, to the meanings of words like province, parish, or territory.  That is, something that started out as a union of thirteen little nations, has wound up being one big nation-state that is divided up into fifty sub-sectors to facilitate bureaucratic administration.

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  • 1 month ago

    Democracy is an evolving state of affairs....women did not have the right to vote back then either and only men of property could.....  The electoral college is a flaw today.....it is a flaw that is anti democracy.  But the biggest flaw is the Senate being composed of 2 Senators from each state regardless of how large the State is. Can you imagine if the rule was each state gets 2 Senators, but gets and extra one for once it crosses a certain threshold population wise, Where California might get like 5 or New York 5.  That would change things quite a bit to make the country more normal.....Instead of what we have now where we have a lot small hick poor states basically having power to overrule the will of much larger much more populous states, Wyoming and Montana being the equals of California and New York, its ridiculous and ludicrous....

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  • 1 month ago

    Look up Lloyd Demause psychoclasses. Racism is simply a need to kill germs, or "intrusive mode" what Lloyd calls it. The Electoral College is simply a way to curb democracy, so the chance of a elector (elected official) voting a different politican, say voting a Democrat in Texas, is possible. in 2016 Washington state elector basically became "faithless electors". (Three

    votes went to Colin Powell, and one to Faith Spotted Eagle)

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    You are greatly overblowing this.  The Founding Fathers said that slavery was extremely evil but necessary.  They felt if slavery was abolished, the economies in both the North and the South would collapse and therefore the world economy would collapse and go bankrupt.

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    • Ema1 month agoReport

      Another example of when the needs of money were put before the needs of people. 

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    Replace Congress with a Parliament, one with proportional representation and a vote of no confidence. 

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  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    They didn't have commercially sliced bread then so your assertions are inaccurate

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  • 1 month ago

    The electoral college makes 50 states one country.  

    • Prince
      Lv 5
      1 month agoReport

      Suck it. CHOKE on it. 

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  • Cousin
    Lv 6
    1 month ago

    You don't. It is a ridiculous system and entirely unfair to anointed kings. Unfair to the majority also. 

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  • 1 month ago

    1) The Civil War was NOT fought over slave ownership rights. No "red neck" white racist back then was EVER going to risk his life in war battle, just so he could legally own and use slave labor!! That was well spun political propaganda by a tight inner circle of Northern political lobbyists of that era--who wanted to hostile overtake the financial expanding agricultural industries created by the South ( including that TEXAS OIL  the industrialized North badly needed ); they needed PUBLIC SUPPORT for the War.....and that's how they got it. 

    The "distraction" from the War was the perfect opportunity southern slaves needed to "escape" their brutal oppressive lives and so created the "Underground Railroad". And when the War was "won" by the North, the political opportunists really had no more use of Abraham Lincoln so.........2) As for the Electoral College: Debates of it's existence contend that as a political entity, it's purpose has long since been only useful in controversial Presidental elections; many debates contend the EC should end.3) I fail to see or connect the Pre-Civil War issue with the Electoral College; both are clearly separate entities in American History.

  • Hockey
    Lv 6
    1 month ago

    Yo troll, begin with proving that the Founding Fathers thought slavery was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then we'll talk.

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