Will Britain dump the NHS and become a first world country again?

Question

For the record the Covid death rate is Britain is about 4%. In the US it's 2%

Update:

@Barry- The astrazeneca vaccine has been a complete train wreck and is months behind the other vaccines. Never mind the fact that it was almost entirely funded by the US under Warp Speed. 

Update 2:

@Jas- Socialized health care, by definition, makes you a second world country. Cherry-pick all you want, it doesn't change anything.

Update 3:

@anon- "Every 1st world country has socialised (sic) health care" 

No, socialized health care makes you second world by definition. Look up what these words and phrases mean before you try to correct someone who knows a lot more than you. 

Answer 1

The NHS is the icing and the cherry on the=cake.

No government that attempted to scrap the NHS would ever be elected again. The population of th3 U.K. love their NHS passionately.......and rightly so

Answer 2

Please, please, please can we end the myth that 1. the NHS is free and 

2. Is underfunded due to “Tory cuts”

It costs every tax payer over £6k ( per Covid figures) per year.

Every government continually pours money into the NHS. It’s a bottomless pit and badly managed. However unlike a business, repeat “customers” cost you money instead of making it. I.e when you save someone’s life, at some stage they will come back for more expensive treatment. Add in spiralling costs for  drugs ( private industry that intends making a profit) and demands for treatments that didn’t exist not  long ago and massive increase in demand for mental health services and any extra money is swallowed up.

Add in bad management , pc box ticking and the totally unexpected Covid crisis , its not surprising it had problems.

As for Covid rates , they are comparable with similar countries,France and Italy for example, and of course less densely populated countries have a lower rate.

Answer 3

Fail to see how introducing a health care system that excludes many people who can’t afford it would make us first world. 

Answer 4

Usually socialised healthcare systems are associated with developed countries and an absence of such a system is a mark of an impoverished country. 

Answer 5

Every developed country manages a health service apart from the US, the NHS isn't forced onto us, we can get insurance and go private like you, or pay out of pocket, the only the difference is that is your only option and we have a safety net in the NHS.

Answer 6

So you think all the countries like the UK  who have socialised health care systems are not first world countries?

A list which includes Germany, Holland, Belgium, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Spain, Norway, Finland, Israel, Japan, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Luxembourg and Portugal.

The death rate in all these countries is lower than the UK and for many lower than the US

The death rate in the UK is not the fault of the NHS, but over ten years of Conservative swinging cuts to the NHS.  Not forgetting his party having sold profitable pieces of the NHS to private companies, who are only interested in making money and provide the minimum service they can.Then there has been the Prime Ministers incompetence boasting about shaking hands with Covid patients back in March, not having a comprehensive plan and wasting millions giving contracts for things like the tracking system and PPE supplies to their mates who have totally failed to deliver.To put the blame on the NHS is disgraceful and an insult to all those who work in it.

Answer 7

The Covid rate only looks higher because in the beginning, there was  only testing of those who were in hospital, not of those who just stayed home to recover. Also, the UK is more densely populated and has an older population than the USA--the lifespan in the UK is 81/82...which is greater than the average American. You should be looking at YOUR health system, considering the 'greatest country' has a lower lifespan than  all of western Europe, and falling, and also has the greatest obesity and a shocking number of maternal/infant deaths |(the latter almost third world.)

Answer 8

The death rate due to Covid , generally , is around 1% -- the higher figures of 3% etc are associated with the number of deaths compared to the known ,recorded cases of Corvid ,at that time -- not the likely actual number of cases , which is believed to be around 3x higher .

As for the NHS -- it will survive Covid ,but funding it ,going forward, is going to be a huge struggle .

Unfortunately ,most Brits expect a Rolls Royce NHS service ,for the price of a mini -- and even then , they expect someone else to pay for it .

Answer 9

No Britain will never lose the NHS and it’s political suicide to even suggest it. And, no, no one has died from the pretend virus.

Answer 10

NHS is doing good.........